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Back in the VP debate, the GOP mistakenly–and hilariously–declared Pence the winner before the debate even happened.

Reader Patrick sent this to me and said he thought that most people probably did this: they picked their winner long before they even watched the debate.

There’s some evidence to support this. 57% of people polled by CNN said that Clinton won Sunday’s presidential debate–but 58% of those same people say they supported Clinton before the debate. 

Conversely, if you look at a conservative site like Briebart doing an online opt-in poll, over 92% of their respondents said Trump won

I actually haven’t watched the debates. This surprises many of my friends: isn’t this politics stuff what I do? Personally, I didn’t think I’d learn anything from the debates that would change how I’m voting, and it seems like most other people watching are also unlikely to change how they vote: who they support going in is likely to color who they think won coming out.

I can’t imagine learning a whole lot about the candidates themselves: they’ve got websites, records in office (where applicable…), and other long histories that tell you about their positions, their character, their temperament, and their competence–far beyond what you can get in a live performance of this variety. 

My current unfounded guess is that people watch the debate a bit like a sports game: they go in rooting for one side, hoping they’ll perform well and score more points for the other. Is it primarily entertainment? Is it a form of dealing with anxiety over who will end up winning the election, with the idea that the debate will matter to how other people vote? Or perhaps more people than I think are undecided?

Looking forward to thoughts from people that are watching them.

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  • Tim Martin, October 11, 2016 @ 1:35 am Reply

    Yeah, for me I’d say I watch the debates mostly for entertainment. I’ve never really articulated it like that before, but that seems to be an apt description. I already know going into the debate which candidate I’m going to vote for, and I don’t tend to learn much about anything from watching the debates. So… entertainment.

    I will say that the democratic primary was a different story. I generally vote democrat, and I did learn a bit about the candidates from those debates. I think the general election debates are different because the democratic candidate and republican candidate are so different, it’s obvious which one I’m going to vote for. I don’t need to learn anything extra to make that decision. But in the primaries the democratic candidates had similar views to each other, and I learned a bit more about those views by watching the debates. Though I still could have learned just as much by doing some reading instead of watching the debate, so once again the entertainment value is relevant.

  • J, October 11, 2016 @ 12:49 pm Reply

    To me the debates are a way to get a sense of the character, temperament, and knowledge of the candidates. You can get some of that from their record, but the platforms are generally useless on that front.

    I can offhand think of two times that debates have impacted my vote.

    First, in 2008’s presidential race. As usual, the Republican and Democratic platforms were each a mix of things I liked and things I really didn’t like. McCain’s picking Palin as his running mate made me a lot less likely to vote for him, but the nail in the coffin was the final debate — McCain convinced me that he didn’t understand the economy and he did not understand his plan for health care overhaul. At that point in the campaign, the economy was the primary consideration and if he didn’t understand these topics I didn’t expect him to actually focus on them and fight for them.

    Second: Scott Brown vs Elizabeth Warren in 2012. Similar to 2008’s presidential election, each candidate had good and bad; I could have been convinced to vote for either. Sitting through the debates, though, made me disgusted with them both. Each of them focused on attacking the other in ways that were, at least to me, blatantly dishonest.

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