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So I actually used to be a big proponent of basic income. A few conversations, a few articles, and some deeper introspection changed my mind.

Originally I was for basic income because (and here you get an insight into some of my politics) I thought it would be a much more efficient way to help people out: scrap inefficient, segregating, and corruptible means-tested welfare systems, public housing, and (maybe) even stuff like Medicare and Medicaid with just a check that shows up to your door, and let people sort it out. This has drawn flak from people on the right (“what if they just use it on drugs and ignore their kids?”) and the left (“they’ll be taken advantage of by corporations”), but I think there’s good evidence to suggest that people are actually pretty good at deciding how to use their money.

So that’s where I started. It’s changed pretty dramatically.

First, I was part of a panel at Living Room Conversations on Basic Income in which I planned to advocate for the kinda free-market-y argument for it. Actually, it sounds like pretty much everyone in that conversation came in thinking they were pro Basic Income, and left feeling quite hesitant about it. 

Two articles by MIT Technology Review (Basic Income was its front page this month), called “The Danger of Basic Income” and “Basic Income: A Sellout of the American Dream” make some strong arguments against. I won’t repeat them but they informed my thinking below.

Why I Ultimately Changed My Mind

So I think there are two ways to look at basic income: either as poverty reduction or as a way of just not having to work, and it seems there’s a hook to each: if you pay people enough that they’re comfortable not working, they’ll stop working. And I think we easily forget that, until the robot revolution, people working is where wealth comes from.

People go on to say, “oh they/we do artistic pursuits, etc” and even if that is true, it doesn’t create food, medicine, houses, roads, cars, etc. And, of course, then the money would quickly run out: the super-rich can’t just create money without having workers to work in their companies. I think everyone loves the idea of a free lunch so we can go do whatever art we want and/or goof off forever, but who makes the actual lunch part of it? (If the answer is “robots!” then let’s talk again in 30+ years.)

So then we might say, “okay, give people enough money that it’s still really uncomfortable to not work,” and you’ve got a possibly-less terrible dilemma that people in poverty are still economically very uncomfortable. You’d help some working poor on the margins, but anyone not working wouldn’t be able to make ends meet (and it certainly wouldn’t fulfill the pipe dream of “what if you didn’t have to worry about paying rent?”). At that point, you’ve still got a gap that hasn’t been fully solved.

And so I realized I was stuck: I didn’t see a way that basic income would work in either of those scenarios. So I don’t think I’ll be advocating for it anymore. It requires a bit more thought on my part. I might pivot towards more of a negative income tax, proposed by Milton Friedman, which might strike the balance of encouraging people to work while also making sure people don’t starve. We’ll see.

But changing our minds is a good thing.

43 Comments

  • Daniel Kane, July 8, 2016 @ 6:31 pm Reply

    OK. I can see this as being a problem with basic income, but I’m not sure why this would be more of a problem with basic income than it would be with other poverty reduction programs. I feel like all of them face the fundamental dilemma that if you make things sufficiently comfortable for the unemployed, people will intentionally go unemployed.

    • Erik Fogg, July 8, 2016 @ 8:39 pm Reply

      For what it’s worth I’m thinking seriously about a negative income tax to solve it, as there aren’t "cliffs" associated with it the way there would be with BI or are with means-tested welfare.

      • Daniel Kane, July 9, 2016 @ 12:51 am Reply

        What exactly is the distinction here between UBI and negative income tax?

        • Erik Fogg, July 9, 2016 @ 12:54 am Reply

          UBI is "everyone gets $X." Negative income tax is a %, so there’s a zero cross-off at some point; above that you pay a growing amount of tax, below it you get a growing amount of those people’s money.

  • Nat Brown, July 8, 2016 @ 7:49 pm Reply

    I am not yet an advocate for basic income (I don’t know enough about it, nor do I think we really can until we try it), but it was my impression that basic income doesn’t necessarily suffer from the "lack of work" issue. Most people want to live better lives than what is offered by merely basic income, so they will work just to improve their place in life (‘I want a car, I want to have some nice clothes, I want to pay for my kid’s college education, I want to live in a safe neighborhood’, etc). Basic income would not provide enough money for middle class homeownership, saving for retirement, etc. It essentially just allows people to rent, buy food, buy insurance, and other things primarily related to survival with a little extra spending money after.

    Inevitably, some people will choose not to work under basic income, and more people than choosing not to work today. How much are these individuals dragging down the economy, or "not creating wealth", or otherwise leading to possibly bad economic consequences? We don’t know the answer to this question. I think basic income advocates would argue that the productivity of the few–the super-rich, the entrepreneurs, the ambitious–would more than make up for the drag produced by the unemployed. They might also argue that there are latent economic benefits to allowing people to do what they want to do — artists, after all, do create wealth. And there are some studies which suggest that people don’t really work less under basic income (e.g., the Omitara study), although it’s difficult to know how any of these studies would apply on a large scale.

    I think one issue with basic income is that it comes with the same issues that come with any legislation that gives people more choices or options. How people spend the money will be determined by the kind of information they have access to, what kinds of social/cultural/economic capital they already have, and what financial demands are made on them (e.g., "buy food for children, or save for the future?"). The impoverished and working class will make inevitably worse decisions than those who already have money. And so, basic income may only help inequality in the sense that it takes people out of poverty, but it does not actually improve social mobility or create meritocracy.

    Another question I have is how basic income might be exploited, in the same ways that social welfare is exploited. Right now I do not think that exploitation of social welfare is that big of a deal (none of it is on a scale that is problematic), although it is scary to see how places like Kiryas Joel systemically exploit social welfare. We need to consider the consequences of basic income among social groups, rather than just on an individual or country-level.

  • Chris McAdam, July 9, 2016 @ 3:36 am Reply

    The biggest problem with Basic income is setting a meaningful level and still getting the crap jobs done. You still need people to farm, to distribute goods and services (and all the blue collar work associated with that) which means you need to, somehow :
    A) Provide income high enough through purchases of these good to pay people to show up and do it
    B) provide enough income tax to fund the UBI in addition to all the other services
    C) Keep the prices of those goods and services from going up significantly while still doing A&B or the UBI ceases to provide what it promised; basic necessities. As someone who has over 30 years in retail, it’s not a great career path, and the margins are small. I don’t see how you get retail workers for what you’d be able to pay without raising prices, particularly if you can survive without doing it. I see even less likelihood of getting, say, migrant farm workers. And yet, without food, clothing, and shelter, distributed to where people can buy them affordably, the UBI can’t work.

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