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From medieval torture methods to today’s discussions surrounding the death penalty, how we punish crimes has changed dramatically. Now, we are at another shift in the punishment system. This time, we are taking into account justice, blame and moral justice to decide on  how to punish criminals.

Take Sweden as an example. “Prison is not punishment in Sweden. We get people into better shape,” said Nils Oeberg, Director-General of the Swedish Justice Department. The new Swedish model for prison focuses on dramatically rehabilitating criminals to help them re-enter society. This new system comes at a higher cost but has led to a 40% drop in reoffense rates. Now, the Swedish reoffense rate is half that of other OECD (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development) nations.

The Swedish system still has the loss of freedom as the punishment but the idea behind it has changed. “The implication in the Swedish model is that sentenced individuals are still primarily regarded as people with needs, to be assisted and helped.” Now, the focus has shifted so offenders are viewed as humans not just criminals.

Beforehand, society felt criminals deserved misery and torture for their crimes and treated them with little humanity. The view was that criminals willingly chose to commit crimes so they were morally responsible for their actions. Because of this, they deserved to suffer. But, since then, society has moved away from this view. Instead of using torture or deprivation as forms of punishment, we use humane-but-unpleasant prison systems. Now, judges and juries decide on the offender’s moral agency and hold them accountable for their actions.

How do we, as a society, decide how much moral agency to assign to a person and their actions? In War and Peace, Leo Tolstoy describes the spectrum of moral agency that emerged during the Enlightenment. He said that when we know about the “why” behind someone’s action then we assign less moral agency to the action.

Moral agency can be applied to both vices and virtuous deeds. If someone is an alcoholic they might be scorned. If that alcoholic had alcoholic parents, grew up in poverty/pain and had lost a family member then the alcoholic has less moral agency and can be viewed in a sympathetic light. Similarly, we give the entrepreneur less credit if they’ve grown up wealthy with a private education and a seed fund from their parents. Nurture plays a large role in determining the individual’s moral agency for their actions. Because of this, both of these people’s moral agency gets partially discounted as we learn more about their circumstances.

What about nature, aka genetics? For virtue, how much moral agency should be discounted if a person has a higher IQ? Or, how much moral agency does a mentally ill person have if they commit a crime? When does moral discounting come into play for people with illnesses such as sadism, narcissism, and sociopathy?

Returning to the Swedish prison model, do some people deserve punishment for hurting others? Are people so driven by nature and nurture that they have no moral agency? Are they simply people in need of help? And, do we need to apply the same amount of moral discounting to virtuous behavior –whether it’s traditional success or simply kindness–that we apply to vices?

In the end, we do we draw the line between external influences and independent decision-making? And, if we don’t draw a line, does anyone truly deserve to have a different outcome than anyone else, no matter their behavior?

It’s a difficult, philosophical question, but an important one. I look forward to everyone’s thoughts.

40 Comments

  • Chris McAdam, February 16, 2017 @ 2:52 pm Reply

    There are crimes that one can be "rehabilitated" from…. some simply by providing job training and a means to provide for oneself besides theft…. assuming society as a whole is willing to employ such an individual (this is a huge problem with the American system…. even a model prisoner who has truly reformed has serious issues with employment once released)

    There are others where the justification for punishment is great, and the likelihood of reforming the person is slight…. murder, particularly heinously done; torture; rape; acts to terrorize in any capacity, to name just some of them. One can argue those offenders should be in for life to begin with. If not, they should be in for so long that age by itself makes it unlikely they will be physically capable of re-offending.

    The ones in between are where the arguments come from. Can Madoff be reformed? He’s in for more than the rest of his life, so the courts don’t care, but that’s the kind of crime where one can really be unsure if they are making someone see the error of their ways, or the criminal is merely conning the attempted reformer. Tyco’s CEO? Enron’s? White collar criminals in general, who violated trust and stole not out of need, but want, and made their own opportunities.

    Sweden MUST have criminals like this…. one has to wonder how they KNOW if they are reoffending right now.

  • Tim Martin, February 17, 2017 @ 2:27 am Reply

    Ehh, this was a philosophical question during a time when humanity understood less about the world. Now it’s a scientific one (I’m not interested in arguing too much over those definitions – you know what I mean when I say this, or if you don’t, it’ll become clear in a minute.)

    The universe appears to be deterministic, aside from some amount of quantum indeterminacy (which has no bearing on crime and punishment whatsoever, and so can be ignored for this conversation.) People are just squishy computer programs. Rehabilitating them is a great idea if you can do it, because everybody benefits. If you can’t rehabilitate someone, and they are a threat to others, then it makes sense to make it so they can’t hurt others. ‘Desert’ never enters into the equation (though I will quickly point out that you haven’t defined your terms, so I can’t even be sure of what you mean by the word. Still, it probably isn’t useful here.)

    • Erik Fogg, February 17, 2017 @ 2:44 am Reply

      Just definitely want to be clear that I think rehabilitation seems to be a brilliant policy 🙂

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