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A reader brought this article to our attention and added a few comments that we wanted to share (we’ve added a few of our own, too, in italics.)

*Update: reader Charles pointed out–and we later researched–that the dinner was a benefit for Cruz and thus was more directly a support of Cruz’s campaign, which changes the calculus of the post, updated below (thanks, Charles!). Time magazine describes it in brief, with two powerful quotes:

1) The swift backlash from their shared dinner says as much as any tale about our factionalized politics, in which anyone who appears to stray from tribal alliances faces the prospect of excommunication.”

2) “in American politics today, what keeps us apart matters more than what brings us together.”

A gay hotelier (Ian Reisner) recently invited Ted Cruz to speak at his home with the intent of “having an open political discussion with those who have a differing political opinion.” Rather than being applauded, this hotelier was shamed to the point that he issued a public apology to “make up for [his] poor judgement.” 

“I sincerely apologize for hurting the gay community and so many of our friends, family, allies, customers and employees,” Reisner wrote. “I will try my best to make up for my poor judgment.”

Reisner began his post by writing that he had received numerous emails, phone calls, texts, and messages that prompted him to reconsider his stance on inviting Cruz to his home. He previously stood by the decision, telling The New York Times that “Senator Ted Cruz and I disagree strongly on the issue of gay marriage, but having an open dialogue with those who have differing political opinions is a part of what this country was founded on. My tireless support of the gay community and its causes worldwide hasn’t changed and will not change.”

Ultimately the discussion focused on foreign policy–where Cruz and the hotelier are aligned–though the issue of gay marriage was fielded. After the event, Reisner’s hotel faced an immediate boycott and lost a number of fundraising events for having had the conversation with Cruz.

Protestors demanded a boycott of the hotel outside one of its locations, and a Facebook page demanding the boycott has 11,000 supporters.

Something to Consider: while Cruz and Reisner disagree deeply on the issue of gay marriage, the event and discussion suggest that there are other issues they agreed upon. It’s likely that no candidate in a presidential election agrees with us on every issue: our positions are complex and nuanced. Why is it that some issues are so emotionally powerful that supporting a candidate that disagrees with one of them is threatening? What makes those issues especially dangerous?

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  • Charles Hope, June 12, 2015 @ 4:25 pm Reply

    Well, having looked around a bit at the controversy, at least some of the articles are describing it as a fundraiser for Cruz, rather than just a "conversation," and I think there’s a difference there. At that point you’re actively providing support, not just "talking." Reisner has apparently denied it was a fundraiser, but also denied having given Cruz any contributions, and that has since been disproven. There are also some quotes from Cruz using his attendance at the event as proof of his belief in a "big-tent", so they’re providing him political cover for his disagreeable positions, as well.

    As to the more general question – having a conversation with someone involves acknowledging their position as reasonable and one on which reasonable people can disagree. That is damaging to a group that is trying to make it clear that a position is not one on which reasonable people can disagree. It’s fine to be polite even to crazy-flat-earthers, but having a public event in which you say "this is my friend the flat-earther, and he’s going to talk to you about how the earth is really flat"* moves flat-earth beliefs into a position of acceptability, instead of relegating them to the junkpile of history, where they belong.

    That said, I think the Internet spawns flash-mobs that punish people out of all proportion for initial mistakes, but that’s a different problem.

    *Cruz appears to have been mostly talking about Israel at the Reisner event, but your question seems to be about ‘is it damaging to talk to people about their views you disagree with’ rather than ‘is it damaging to ever talk to them,’ so that’s the question I’m answering.

    • Something to Consider, June 12, 2015 @ 5:10 pm Reply

      Charles,

      Thanks very much for doing the extra research and holding us to count–we obviously fell a bit short here on our research. I’ll be updating the article.

      You bring up a great point. Back to the hypothetical conversation: probably the two questions in my head are:
      1) Can such a conversation help "bring around" some people that would otherwise not be exposed to your ideas? I think that was the idea of Bill Nye & Ken Hamm, and why each of them thought the conversation could be valuable.
      2) If we don’t want to engage people with unreasonable ideas, by what standard can we determine that they’re unreasonable? Is it only our own conviction, or something else?

      • Joe Essenburg, June 16, 2015 @ 9:29 pm Reply

        Thanks Charles, good thought. Just for the purpose of bringing another perspective: for your comment around the notion of the earth being flat as "crazy" consider that this is dependent on what your assumed coordinate system is. Sure in Cartesian coordinates (the system you and I are likely most intuitively familiar with) the earth is a 3D oblate spheroid and certainly not flat. But the earth IS effectively flat if you assumed a spherical coordinate system with origin at the center of earth, which is why we can effectively define someone’s position using only two coordinates (latitude, longitude); in this system the third coordinate of radius is effectively "flat".
        I’m not saying this to dispute the point of the earth’s flatness or non-flatness, rather I bring it up just to highlight the point that we can benefit from better understanding the assumptions we may be knowingly and unknowingly making when determining whether an idea or belief is reasonable or not, and in my experience this helps greatly in finding common ground. I like the question above, by what standard can we determine whether something is reasonable or unreasonable? I’m curious in others’ thoughts.

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